Ali Hussein Sibat: Do not travel to Saudi Arabia 1 by PaulParal A father of five children, a Lebanese astrologer/psychic/ TV personality/ Ali Hussain Sabat is very close to be beheaded within the next 48 hours. As the article quotes: Mr.Sabat appears to have been convicted solely for the peaceful exercise of his rightful freedom of expression. He traveled to Saudi Arabia from Lebanon in 2008 from his home in Beirut. He was arrested by religious police in the Saudi city of Medina during a pilgrimage and then sentenced to death on November 9 of the same year. Sabat's lawyer, May el-Khansa, told several news agencies Wednesday that she believes her client will be executed within 48 hours. She's appealing to Lebanese authorities, including the country's ambassador to Saudi Arabia, to intervene. This is outrageous!!! Paul Paral Quote Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:23 pm
Re: Do not travel to Saudi Arabia 2 by PaulParal And the missing link is here: http://globalpolitician.com/26333-saudi-arabia Quote Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:27 pm
3 by Deb It is tragic. Very sad and truly shocking. Less than a year ago I reported on a popular Sri Lankan astrologer who was arrested under similar circumstances: http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?p=41059 We western astrologers write about the bygone days when astrologers were in peril and murdered with fascination in something from which we are historically detached. Very sobering to stop and think that this still goes on in ths day and age, and we are powerless to do anything about it. Quote Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:40 pm
4 by Eddy This is terrible he link mentioned by Paul wrote:It is worth mentioning that Saudi Arabia has no clear legal definition on the charge of witchcraft and judges are given discretionary power in determining what constitutes a crime and what sentence to impose.It seems that judges over there can almost entirely take the place of the lawgiver. Probably they will follow the Hadith, traditional Islamic 'jurisprudence'. I believe there are several of these. This is an example on 'sorcery': http://islamicweb.com/beliefs/creed/abd ... hap-22.htm Quote Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:12 pm
5 by Tom No one knows, at this time, if this is simply a postponement or if he will be released. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100402/ap_ ... witchcraft Tom Quote Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:04 am
6 by Deb I'm sure the lawyer's media announcements helped. The story got some coverage in the national newspapers here yesterday. I really hope the media keeps the pressure up and ensures this man's release back to his family. He has been in prison now for nearly 2 years, simply for passing through that country after making predictions on a satellite channel from his home in another country. This could be any of us. I wonder if the astrological associations are willing to write to politicians about this, in the same way that the AA writes to complain to the BBC? I'll ask about that. Deb Quote Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:53 am
7 by PaulParal Dear Colleagues, appeals should be sent to: King and Prime Minister His Majesty King ?Abdullah Bin ?Abdul ?Aziz Al-Saud The Custodian of the two Holy Mosques Office of His Majesty the King Royal Court, Riyadh Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Fax: (via Ministry of the Interior) +966 1 403 1185 Salutation: Your Majesty Second Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Interior His Royal Highness Prince Naif bin ?Abdul ?Aziz Al-Saud, Ministry of the Interior, P.O. Box 2933, Airport Road Riyadh 11134 Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Fax: +966 1 403 1185 Salutation: Your Royal Highness Copies to: President, Human Rights Commission Bandar Mohammed ?Abdullah al- Aiban Human Rights Commission P.O. Box 58889, King Fahad Road, Building No. 373, Riyadh 11515 Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Fax: +966 1 461 2061 Email: hrc@haq-ksa.org Salutation: Dear Mr al-Aiban Also, send copies to Saudi Arabian diplomatic representatives accredited to your country. To follow up: http://www.amnesty.org Paul Quote Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:11 pm
8 by Deb To update this thread, the AA have just sent out a newsletter urging their members to write to the addresses given in this thread. I'm not sure if they are planning to write their own letter too but I was given the impression that was happening several days ago. Nick Campion has also mentioned that there is a face book group dedicated to offering support. I'm not a facebook member myself, but imagine it is easy to get the link for that. I sent my own letter to the Saudi Arabian Embassy on behalf of the Skyscript site, cc-d to the FCO about a week ago. It can be viewed as a PDF file on the link below: http://skyscript.co.uk/pdf/ali_sabat.pdf Unfortunately the news has gone quiet. Please keep us informed Paul if you hear any more news. Deb Quote Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:10 pm
Lebanon Man held for Sorcery in Saudi Arabia 9 by leomoon Thank you for writing that nice letter Deborah, I hope to God that someone is listening and witnesssing this travesty. I'm sure you will let us know if there is any response to your plea. http://www.news.pushpi.com/tag/ali-sabat REF: Human rights groups have accused the Saudis of "sanctioning a literal witch hunt by the religious police". An Egyptian working as a pharmacist in Saudi Arabia was executed in 2007 after having been found guilty of using sorcery to try to separate a married couple. There is no legal definition of witchcraft in Saudi Arabia, but horoscopes and fortune telling are condemned as un-Islamic. Quote Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:25 am
10 by PaulParal So far there have not been any new developments. The Facebook Group " PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION TO SAVE Ali Hussein Sibat FROM EXECUTION" is waiting to hear from the lawyer of Ali Sibat. Apparently, executions are carried only on Fridays. So, so far good news for another week. All we can do is to keep pushing, and pushing and pushing. Obviously, they have changed their minds somewhat, if it would not be for the overwhelming reaction to this insanity, he would be dead by now. Quote Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:19 pm
11 by PaulParal Hopefully, this could prove to be good news: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... wD9F7GUEG3 However, I would think twice to ever come near this land as an astrologer. I wonder how we would treat them if they would not have all that oil. They seem equal to Taliban to me, no pun intended. I see no big difference between the two in their applications of their religion = law. P. Quote Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:48 pm
12 by Deb Hi Paul It's good news about the execution, but I hope the story doesn't get forgotten now. The poor man has already been in prison for 2 years - for whatever reason we don't understand. I think the world should continue to take notice until we hear of his release, or get a better explanation for the reason behind his arrest. Regards Deb BTW - Another astrologer sent me this link, and it does seem worth including here: a 1979 newspaper report of the Saudi Arabian Oil Minister, Sheikh Zaki Yamani, being himself an astrologer who "never makes a decision without consulting his charts". According to him "Saudi Arabia is a Virgo, almost on the cusp of Libra". http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1144 Quote Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:11 pm