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Posted: **Wed May 12, 2010 4:06 pm**

Hi all!!
Can anyone recommend a Horary astrology book by Derek Appleby?
Thanks!
Wishes SG.

Posted: **Wed May 12, 2010 5:00 pm**

Hello

He only has this one, in two versions - the original (now only available 2nd hand) and the reprint.

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/rev_da.html

Regards

H.

Posted: **Wed May 12, 2010 6:08 pm**

Hi Handn!
Thank you fdor your reply.Ill look on amazon I think its available on there.
Wishes SG.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2010 12:24 am**

Yep it should be on Amazon and similar sites, not too long ago I got a good quality secondhand copy of the original version via Amazon.

Regards

H.

Posted: **Sun May 16, 2010 10:57 am**

Yep it should be on Amazon and similar sites, not too long ago I got a good quality secondhand copy of the original version via Amazon.

Regards

H.

I have a copy of the old Aquarian Press edition but was thinking of getting the new one. I find the charts a bit hard to follow in the original edition. Does anyone know if the new edition has had the original hand written charts re-set?

Thanks

Mark

Posted: **Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:38 pm**

I have the new version, and it has both the hand written charts (the same the original Aquarian Press? had) and an appendix with the charts re drawn in WinStar-like charts.

Best to you,

Melina

www.starryherald.com.ar

Posted: **Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:14 pm**

Hello Melina,

First of all welcome to Skyscript.

Thanks very much for clarifying that.

Now thats clear I will probably get this updated version. I do like Derek Appleby's style. Plus as a fellow Aquarian I love his 'heresy' of using placidus houses for horary.

Mark

Posted: **Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:06 pm**

MarkC wrote:Plus as a fellow Aquarian I love his 'heresy' of using placidus houses for horary.

On that note, back in 2008, Deb said....

I'm personally tempted to switch to Placidus for all my charts, because I like the time-based philosophy behind its construction; that too seems as good as any other (Another advantage for me is that most of the time, there's barely any difference from what I get with Regiomontanus anyhow. )

http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3565

Welcome to Heretics Anonymous

Regards

H.

Posted: **Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:54 pm**

handn wrote:
MarkC wrote:Plus as a fellow Aquarian I love his 'heresy' of using placidus houses for horary.
On that note, back in 2008, Deb said....
I'm personally tempted to switch to Placidus for all my charts, because I like the time-based philosophy behind its construction;
Yes, but... Appleby himself says that even though he started using Placidus, for it was the house system he used for his regular natal chart readings, he ended up using Regio...
I use Regiomontanus, only out of my personal experience that Regio tends to be more accurate (at least with the questions I?ve dealt with up to now) in terms of aspects to cusps.

Best to you.

Posted: **Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:19 pm**

Yes, but... Appleby himself says that even though he started using Placidus, for it was the house system he used for his regular natal chart readings, he ended up using Regio...
I use Regiomontanus, only out of my personal experience that Regio tends to be more accurate (at least with the questions I?ve dealt with up to now) in terms of aspects to cusps.

I had forgotten Appleby came to that conclusion. I clearly need to reacquaint myself with the book. Its not surprising Appleby eventually leaned towards Regiomontanus. With the rediscovery of Willliam Lilly's Christian Astrology there was a natural tendency to seek to develop astrological technique through the prism of Lilly and other English 17th century astrologers.

I had long assumed Johannes M?ller (Regiomontanus) (1436-76) developed this system in the late 15th century. However, it seems like so many house systems the actual origin of the system long precedes the person it is named after.

In regards the Regiomontanus system J.D. North writes in his 'Horoscopes and History' that in all probability the origin probably dates back to 11th century AD Arabic astrologers.

". . .it seems quite certain that al-Jayyini, had the method of casting the houses later ascribed to al-Ghafuqi and now known universally as Regiomontanus?s method. It is possible that al- Jayyini, a notable mathematician, developed the mathematics needed for drawing up tables for that method. . .And. . ., it is not improbable that Regiomontanus knew of his work on the subject. . . .certainly we have no earlier name than al- Jayyini to tag on to the Equatorial (fixed boundary) procedure."

Regarding Regiomontanus being more 'accurate' I think the best house system is in the eye of the beholder.

Mark

Posted: **Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:06 pm**

MarkC wrote:[Regarding Regiomontanus being more 'accurate' I think the best house system is in the eye of the beholder.

Mark

I couldn?t agree more!
Preach on, brother!!

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:37 pm**

Yes, some of the charts in the book (Derek Appleby's) are in Placidus and others are in Regiomontanus.

For the benefit of anyone who doesn't have the book but is interested, on page 11 (of the original edition of the book) there is a paragraph headed 'House Division' where he talks about his experience telling him that equal house is unsuitable for horary.

About Placidus he says 'I would suggest that Placidus is used to begin with, if only because the tables are readily available' and then 'Later you might wish to experiment with alternative systems. The reason for the mix in this book is that I began with Placidus but have now settled with Regiomontanus.'

But did he stay settled or change again?

Regards

H.

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