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Marc H. Pennfield discovered the Scorpio rising horoscope of the U.S.A.: local time 2h20m p.m..
Michael O'Reilly rectified the time as 2h21m p.m..
With the Gieles minus 1 year predictsystem and the perfect astrological calculation program of Johan Ligteneigen I was able to rectify within seconds the above times as 2h20m15s p.m..
I have displayed the horoscope with all the progressieve aspects on date on my website: www.andriescats.nl.

Hello Andries,

I would suggest your post really belongs on the mundane part of the forum rather than here.

However, I can't really accept the title of your post ''The only horoscope of The United States of America.'' I suggest 'Another horoscope of the United states of America'' would be a more accurate title. Alternatively, one could describe your chart as a rectification of the Penfield Scorpio rising chart for the USA.

If one assumes July 4th is the operative date for a chart of the USA there are numerous other charts with varied times with Gemini, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio and Sagittarius rising. Plus there are many other dates than the 4th of July that can be seen as the key date/time for the birth of the USA. For example, the British surrender at Yorktown, The treaty of Paris, The formation of the Confederation or the Federal USA etc. Moreover, traditional astrologers are likely to see the key chart as the Aries Ingress chart prior to the founding of the USA. So I really dont think anyone can claim one chart is 'the only' chart. All one can honestly state is that it is ones preferred chart to work with.

I am not familiar with the predictive system you are using for rectification. I do know that other astrologers are equally convinced through transits , solar arcs, returns and primary directions that other charts for the 4th of July are accurate in reflecting events in American history. In particular Sagittarius rising, or Gemini rising.