Skyscript Astrology Forum

Posted: **Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:23 pm**

I wonder if anyone wants to tackle this ?last seen? chart? It was given to me by an astrologer friend in Vermont. As of this writing, the boy/subject has not been found. They boy?s name is Marble. He is 17 years old . He was living with a couple of friends, not with his family (I have no idea why). Marble was in the kitchen when an unknown person, male. Came t the door. They were heard discussing something, but what is unknown. Marble left a note for his roommates saying he would be back in about 20 minutes and he was expecting his girlfriend to drop by at 4:00 PM. The note was timed 2:17 PM. He hasn?t been seen since. The next day Hurricane Irene dumped a massive amount of water on Vermont. Here is the data:

Aug 27, 2011
2:17 PM EDT
West Brattleboro, Vermont, USA
42N 51? 21
72W36? 17?

7 Sagittarius rises.

Marble is a bit over 6? 2? and from the photos in the link he appears slender, maybe 175 lbs. His hair is long and blonde but some think it might be dyed or it just appears to be different colors in different photos.

Any thoughts? I have a few, but need to get moving for now.

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/ ... _teen.html

Posted: **Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:24 pm**

I can only do it the horary way:

The missing boy's condition and whether he will be found
Riga, Latvia
56N57 24E06
21:28 GMT+3
ASC 15-GM-33

Funny that SAG is on the ASC at the time of the event and on the DSC on my chart. Nevertheless, I think it's just a coincidence and we should use the ASC for the boy because I always do that when asking the question myself and, besides, (a) L1 = Mercury = represents a young person and (b) Mercury in its own sign represents a rather tall person.

You know, it's also funny, in my chart L1 is in the 5th, and in the Last Seen chart L1 is in the 5th. In my chart the Moon separates from Saturn, in the Last Seen chart the Moon separates from Saturn.

If we look (in my chart) at the Moon's last aspect (i.e., what happened) and look at the 4th house.. Doesn't look good...

Posted: **Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:05 pm**

I'm not a fan of event charts. But let's look at it.

The Last Seen Chart

Maybe it was not a coincidence that the ASC/DSC matches in both charts, simply because maybe the boy is represented by the DSC. It's an event chart, who can guarantee that the boy is represented by the ASC?

So we have a problem already.

Anyway, if it's the DSC, the Moon separates from Saturn that rules the 8th and the 9th house (from the DSC). The 9th rules weather and the 8th rules you know what.

If we look from the ASC's perspective, the Dispositor of L1 is combust in the 9th (weather again) by the 9th (the Sun) and the Sun aspects Mars in his Fall in the 8th of the Figure.

Look, the ASC or the DSC, either way we have the 8th house and the 9th house activated here. So we have danger and travels(or short trips respectively) and/or weather on our hands.

I don't know maybe I'm being subjective here and I am "leading the witness" but hopefully someone else will have a clearer perception of the Last Seen chart.

Posted: **Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:15 pm**

Tom,

The article says he left 1:15 PM, you are saying 2:17 PM?

Even if it is 1:15 PM, still doesn't look good.

Posted: **Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:39 pm**

If we're using the time mentioned in the article
The Last Seen Chart #2 1:15 PM

Still bad news, both from the ASC and the DSC perspective. We just cannot win here.

Talk about bad timing.

I hope it's all bullsh**, though, what has been said here and and the kid is fine.

Posted: **Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:45 pm**

The article says he left 1:15 PM, you are saying 2:17 PM?

The woman who gave me the information said when he left the house, he wrote a note and wrote the time down as 2:17. Others were in the house and heard him speaking to someone. So technically he wasn't "seen" but he was in the presence of others at 2:17. The woman who gave me the information lives in Brattleboro, VT and I'll take her word for it over a newspaper article.

Tom

Posted: **Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:38 pm**

I asked my friend and she gave me this article that references the 2:17 time.

http://vtdigger.org/2011/09/09/a-brattl ... to-search/

I like this time better for a couple of reasons. Have you ever gone to someone's house or even to a store in a small town and seen a note like this: "Back in 30 minutes," and there is no time on it? I have and of course the first question is, how long ago did he leave? One minute? Twenty nine minutes? So this kid realizes this and puts a time on the note. Why 2:17? This is the digital age and maybe he looked at a digital clock or watch and or maybe he is just fastidious. Either way it is plausible.

Tom