i don't know how many folks are familiar with using the first president of the usa chart for april 30 1789 new york 12:45pm, but i like working with it.

i notice many connections to this chart with the event and eclipse data prior to 9-11.. hindsight is 20/20 lol..

i was just looking at the solar eclipse data off the june 21 2001 to the chart.. one thing that struck me was pluto in the se data at the exact midpoint to the sun/moon midpoint.. well, it is 2 minutes out by opposition but it caught my attention. some folks here might want to take a look at the connections both to the se of june 21st and to the transit and solar arc data to the chart which i refer to as potusa-1 using 9-11 as the data date..

Hi James,

Yes I use this chart and it is interesting looking at it in comparison to various historical events. I plan to start a new thread on 9/11 in the new year so maybe we can explore that there?

Have a great New Year!

Mark

thanks mark! all the best in the new year and i look forward to the new thread! cheers james