Not sure if I should post this in the General Forum, but since I only utilize Whole Sign Houses and eschew modern planets...I figure this is where it belongs.

Recently it has come to my attention that not all trines are of a benefic nature.

By this I am referring to one planet being in fall or detriment in trine to another planet (regardless of the second planet's essential dignity or debility).

I find usually that the more pessimistic approach usually better represents the natal promise indicated by the chart. I suppose I will incur detractors, but this has been my experience.

Therefore, a trine from Jupiter in Capricorn to the Moon in Taurus, for example, would actually be quite malefic. Although certainly it depends on which planet is applying to which planet, the fact is, both planets must be factored into the aspect.

I would argue that the Moon's exalted position in Taurus may ameliorate the condition of the evil Jupiter, but that conversely, the evil Jupiter would perversely affect the exalted Moon. This is what I would call a malefic trine (as opposed to a trine between two peregine planets, two dignified planets, or one planet with dignity and one peregrine.)

Thoughts?

zoomaster wrote:Not sure if I should post this in the General Forum, but since I only utilize Whole Sign Houses and eschew modern planets...I figure this is where it belongs.

Recently it has come to my attention that not all trines are of a benefic nature.

By this I am referring to one planet being in fall or detriment in trine to another planet (regardless of the second planet's essential dignity or debility).

I find usually that the more pessimistic approach usually better represents the natal promise indicated by the chart. I suppose I will incur detractors, but this has been my experience.

Therefore, a trine from Jupiter in Capricorn to the Moon in Taurus, for example, would actually be quite malefic. Although certainly it depends on which planet is applying to which planet, the fact is, both planets must be factored into the aspect.

I would argue that the Moon's exalted position in Taurus may ameliorate the condition of the evil Jupiter, but that conversely, the evil Jupiter would perversely affect the exalted Moon. This is what I would call a malefic trine (as opposed to a trine between two peregine planets, two dignified planets, or one planet with dignity and one peregrine.)

Thoughts?

While Jupiter looks at the Moon, the Moon also looks at Jupiter. If one is seeking what will happen in marriage, and the Moon rules the 7th, all planets that can cast rays into the place will have their take on the matter, but might not be called to witness by the domicile lord (Schmidt aspect doctrine). The Moon would be in charge of bringing about the effects as a whole because it is able to effect from its own significations (Moon in Taurus). As those planets become lords of the times, each has their say adding on top of what is already signified depending upon their nature and their relationship to the oikodektor (the planet that acts as host - usually the domicile lord) or not (in the case of aversion).

In the same chart, Jupiter might be lord of the 2nd and 5th houses and all planets who can cast their ray into those places will have their views on the subject and Jupiter as domicile lord will be responsible for bringing out the effects, but is somewhat disabled in doing so. If the exaltation lord can witness the place then it would be preferred particularly if Jupiter is not able to function as a steward for the sign.

In terms of general signification modern ideas tend to view the aspect as some integrated entity, but planets are like people and have individual status. How Mars looks at Saturn will be different from the way Saturn looks at Mars.