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22jul1981 11:00UT 91w09, 30n27
rected for ~10:53:30UT (AS=23ca45)
Death by heart attack(13jun2013 3:00UT)

Ruler 1(MO) and Ruler 6(JU) in opposition (t-squared by MA)
Ruler 6 conjunct SA

uncertain thoughts:
MO, MA = mutual reception
MA, JU = MA in cancer(JU exalts in cancer)
profected to the 8th, (don't know how to profect either), and maybe month profected to the 6th?

What else can we do to forsee this?
what is the hyleg and alcocoden, and what are those things more exactly?

Ariondys wrote: What is the hyleg and alcocoden, and what are those things more exactly?

This is a nocturnal nativity and the Moon is in the 9th house (Hyleg house), then the Moon is Hyleg.

Since Mars has the most dignity in the place of the Moon (domicile+face), then Mars would be the Alcocoden.

Hope this helps.

Pisces

so the Hyleg(capitals?) is sort of 'the ruler' of the chart, like the ruler of the 1st, but with if/and/or/and buts attached to it...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyleg
with such step by steps that I never seem to grasp the why of it. (notwithstanding different experts, don' torture me yet)

if I read this:
http://www.bernadettebrady.com/Pdfs/Hyleg.pdf

The Hyleg and Alcoccoden

will I come to the proper understanding?

ps: source with chart.
http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?num=1372903602

now, obviously if you look there, you see I have modern-astology-ed it. With a hit of sepharial genius for the 6th cusp..

but I'd like to see this with traditional, perhap where the chart is still vague even, unrectified perhaps, but with rulers and houses and such that still remain the same regardless of accuracy.

Hi



After rotating my chart i began from the 8th house Aq. then i found it's ruler at libra, and i considered Venus the reason of death
Venus is at lion, she is eastern (asc.) , at afire sign and peregrine, all those situation are bad, beside her house (libra) is afflicted by two planets Jupier the killer (lord of 8th) and Saturn the disease's lord (6th) an , beside he has the nature of death
So, Venus is malefic

, Sun the lord of the death's asc. (lion), she is in the 5 killer degrees of Ptolemy. Lion and Sun represents the heart, and because both of them afflicted, then the herat is aflicted

And the significater of the 8th (piece) is Venus, and she is aflicted as mentioned
So, death was by heart attack

The firdaria are Jupiter and Saturn
This assure the up interpretation

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In Solar return chart the asc. is sco. naturally the house of death, and his lord Mars is at 8th house, (gimini), and the lord of gimini Mercury conjuncts Venus of the origion (the killer), and Venus in solar return chart in combustion at cancer the house, naturally, the place of death (under the ground )

The lord of 5th house in solarity Jupiter is at 7th and his lord Venus in combustion, that means the heart in combustion

But what is about Hyleg and Alcocoden ?
Here is the problem, there's no experience, but try best

Sun is at the 12th house, so she is not hyleg
Then we look to the Moon, he is at the 9th, so he is the Hyleg, because there's an aspect with him from dignities

Then, what is the Alcocoden ?
The dignities of the Hyleg are :
Mars(house 5 p. and face 1 p.=6 p), Sun (exaltation 4 p.) , Jupiter (trip.3 p. and term 2 p=5 p)
Mars is the Alcocoden

Now, how old he was ?
We have to increase the positive plants to him, and decrease the negatives (the aspects)
And because the alcocoden is malefic in the 12th we use the lesser years
Mars + Mercury - Saturn - Jupiter - Moon = 15 + 20 - 30 - 12 - 25 = 32 year that was his old

This is the profection chart of the death
The asc. of death profected the pcs. the lord it is Jupiter which ended (profected) to gimini conjuncting Saturn
The 6th (sagi.) profected to leon (heart) and it's lord (Sun) to the ascendent (pcs)to combust the Moon of the origion
Then pcs. was the 12th in origion (end, death) especially because it's lord (jupiter) conjuncts the planet of death naturally (Saturn)

Here, became at hands lot of things reffer to death :
8th (origion) + 12th (profection) and the lord of them (jup) + Saturn the lord of 12th which in it Mras + Mercury

After a good connection between all those significations , we see the death has happened