Extra conditione Sun
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:04 pm
Rob Hand in his booklet Night and Day: Planetary Sect in Astrology, introduces the term extra conditione to describe a planet that does not fulfil any of the three main conditions of being in sect (see p. 7 of the booklet).
So Saturn, a diurnal planet, is extra conditione if these conditions apply: being in a nocturnal chart in the hemisphere opposite the Sun in a nocturnal sign. An example would be Sun in Capricorn in the fourth house with Saturn in Cancer in the tenth. Saturn here would be a diurnal planet in a nocturnal chart in the nocturnal hemisphere in a nocturnal sign.
However, my question is this: can the Sun be extra conditione in the example chart given by Hand on p. 56. He describes Nixon's Capricorn Sun, on the cusp of the fifth, as extra conditione. It is certainly a diurnal planet in a nocturnal chart, by definition. It is also a diurnal planet in nocturnal sign. But is the Sun fulfilling at least one condition of sect by defining the diurnal hemisphere.
Hand says that in Nixon's chart the Sun in Capricorn on the cusp of the fifth is extra conditione - i.e. it doesn't fulfil any conditions of its diurnal sect. However, I wonder if the Sun can never actually be extra conditione because it will always fall in the diurnal hemisphere, even if it is below the horizon.
This question was raised during a presentation I gave to my local astrology group on Sunday. Any thoughts would be welcome.
So Saturn, a diurnal planet, is extra conditione if these conditions apply: being in a nocturnal chart in the hemisphere opposite the Sun in a nocturnal sign. An example would be Sun in Capricorn in the fourth house with Saturn in Cancer in the tenth. Saturn here would be a diurnal planet in a nocturnal chart in the nocturnal hemisphere in a nocturnal sign.
However, my question is this: can the Sun be extra conditione in the example chart given by Hand on p. 56. He describes Nixon's Capricorn Sun, on the cusp of the fifth, as extra conditione. It is certainly a diurnal planet in a nocturnal chart, by definition. It is also a diurnal planet in nocturnal sign. But is the Sun fulfilling at least one condition of sect by defining the diurnal hemisphere.
Hand says that in Nixon's chart the Sun in Capricorn on the cusp of the fifth is extra conditione - i.e. it doesn't fulfil any conditions of its diurnal sect. However, I wonder if the Sun can never actually be extra conditione because it will always fall in the diurnal hemisphere, even if it is below the horizon.
This question was raised during a presentation I gave to my local astrology group on Sunday. Any thoughts would be welcome.