Lost in translation... 1 by lejournee Hi, I am getting stuck on my judgements.... The quetion posed: "Do we have any future together?" posed on June 14 @ 12:06 pm Miami, FL (US) 80w12, 25n46 With Virgo as the AC, then I am Mercury in the 10th. Him, Saturn in the 11th. There are no aspects between Venus and Moon. Moon is in the 1st, so that is me with an emotional conflict? (Uranus opp Moon). Venus in the 11th? Is Venus me? Wishful of a relationship? As for the question posed, I can't find the " future" .... can you help? Many thanks! AB Quote Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:08 pm
2 by Deb Relationship charts are primarily judged by the rulers of the 1st house (querent) and 7th (quesited). If Virgo is on the ascendant then Pisces would be on the descendant making ?his? significator Jupiter, (not Saturn). It might help you to read the article on relationship horaries at http://www.skyscript.co.uk/relationships.html Quote Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:42 am
3 by Sungem Hi Lejournee A few pointers ? you are the Asc signified by Mercury less than 5 deg from the cusp of the 11th , so read in 11, signifying your hopes and wishes. It is also 7? from sextile with the Asc showing how this is foremost in your mind at the moment. (It makes no aspect to MC). Whereas you seem to have taken the ruler of the 5th to signify the other party, since you are asking about a relationship (no matter what it?s tone) I would use the 7th ? therefore Jupiter placed in 2 rules the other party. While the 2nd is the house of finances and earned income it also signifies your values. Mercury (you) is approaching a square to Jupiter (him). At the same time, the Moon, your co-significator is approaching a square to the Sun ruler of 12 (hidden things and also sometimes read as a co-signifier for a male) and at the same time it will square Pluto in your 4th. Chances are something will come to light that will change your mind about this relationship. Yes ? the Moon is approaching a sextile to Saturn ruler of the 5th of sex and enjoyment - but it?s going to hit all that other stuff first. Venus rules the 9th ? in this case, dreams of the relationship? ? and 2nd, back to values. While it is conjunct your Mercury signifier, it is neither approaching any aspects nor are any other planets approaching aspect with it. It is past the square to Jupiter, sextile to Moon and trine to Uranus. All these aspects will show what has passed. However since Mercury has yet to perfect the conjunction, no doubt you will hold onto your dreams a while longer. Jupiter also rules your 4th signifying home and also the end of the matter. Mars ruler of the 8th (loss) is approaching an opposition to Jupiter. I?d say things don?t look to good for the future of this relationship and it is probably past its best. I know this probably isn?t what you were hoping for and I would reiterate, it?s not a detailed judgement, just some surface pointers. Quote Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:44 am
4 by MarkF I think that you have your significator right, which is Mercury, but I think that his would be Jupiter as the ruler of the 7th house. I have the 7th house cusp being 7? Pisces. Jupiter is in the 2nd house. There is an applying square between Mercury and Jupiter. Jupiter receives Mercury by exaltation and term, so while the square indicates difficulties, the level of reception says that he likes you, but perhaps in an unrealistic way (exaltation). However Mercury does not receive Jupiter so perhaps, just perhaps you will find yourself losing interest in him. Either way, it looks like you have a future with this guy, but it might not be the most easy one. Venus has just separated from a square with Jupiter. And Jupiter also received Venus in this aspect before Venus moved on. Was there another woman who he was in love with who left him or wasn?t interested in him? Something tells me that this is the heart of the whole situation. While he is strongly attracted to you too, he still might be in love with this other woman. Mars is applying to be opposite Jupiter. Mars is really strong here and rules both the 8th and 3rd houses. One way to read that would be to say that you face a possible loss (8th house) through arguments (3rd house/Mars). Another thing is that your planet Mercury is in the 11th house, not the 10th house. It?s within 5? degrees of the 11th house cusp so it?s considered to be there. Saturn, which rules the 5th house (sex and fun) is also in the 11th house. The Moon will make a sextile with Saturn, it?s only applying aspect with a traditional planet. Saturn indicates a blockage or an obstacle so a possibility is that the sexual and romantic elements here have some obstacles, but maybe you?ll become more like friends (11th house). The Moon will also be sextile the Sun, which rules the 12th house of secrets and impossible situations, and is strongly positioned in the 10th house. I?d read this as some unsolvable elements will come to light (the Sun) soon. To sum it up, there are quite a lot of warning signs here. Your two significators applying by square, Mars applying to be opposite him, the Moon applying to the Sun, and to Saturn. He is attracted to you, but perhaps there was someone else, someone he still is attracted to, and either there is more to the story than you know, or the situation is tougher than you realize. Please tell us all how this turns out and I hope this helps. Any other thoughts would be great too. Mark F Quote Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:11 am
5 by lejournee Deb, Thank you so much for responding. I am defenetly reading the article you suggested. Sungem, Thanks for your input. Quote Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:47 pm